Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 12:01:13 PST From: email_address_removed To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: YTSEJAM digest 308 Contents: trading (Rohit Mukund Modak ) Re: T-shirts (William T Bajzek ) pictures.. (email_address_removed.ac.uk) Re: Import CD's, the first album, etc. (email_address_removed) Re: DoE Packaging (greg%email_address_removed (Greg "Big Brother" Lee)) Re:Ytsejam List T-Shirts? (email_address_removed) JPG posted at ftp.uwp.edu (email_address_removed) Re: Pictures (email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill)) Double CD cases (Michael Burstin ) WDADU, DoE, and LatM (Andrew Cloninger ) Tshirts! (email_address_removed (Michael A. Daugherty)) Some cool info! (hartman larry ) Balls and chunck?? (hartman larry ) Re: T-shirts (email_address_removed (CHAN WEINMEISTER)) Re: JPG posted at ftp.uwp.edu (Michael Bahr ) Re:Ytsejam List T-Shirts? (Michael Bahr ) Re:Ytsejam List T-Shirts? (Jason Hough ) CD Cases (email_address_removed.AC.UK) Ytsejam Digest Archives... (ki!kinet3.ki.com!email_address_removed (Steve Chew)) shirts (Matthew T Pulver ) oh yeah! (Matthew T Pulver ) (email_address_removed (Lee T Sprague)) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 13:21:21 -0500 (EST) From: Rohit Mukund Modak Subject: trading I have a copy of a DT concert on video from Long Island, September, 1992. It is one camera, decent quality, and runs about 90 minutes. Since I don't know that many unreleased DT songs, all I can say is that it has every song from Images and Words on it, plus a lot more (including Ytse Jam, Only a Matter of Time.) If anyone is willing, I'd like to trade this video for the Live at the Marquee CD (german version preferred.) No record stores (or even import stores) that I've been to carry it. I've seen postings that people have seen it for about $15 in their local stores. I would like someone to buy it and send it to me, for my video. Please e-mail me if interested at email_address_removed Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 11:14:13 -0500 (EST) From: William T Bajzek Subject: Re: T-shirts Excerpts from mail: 24-Jan-94 Re: T-shirts by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE@ucs > Have it say (maybe under the Majesty logo): > "Balls and crunch is where it's at." chunk Actually, this should go under an MTV sign on top of a toilet.... Oops, sorry. Typing out loud. Bill Bajzek email_address_removed email_address_removed email_address_removed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 20:06:20 +0100 From: email_address_removed.ac.uk Subject: pictures.. Any chance somebody could put the DT gifs on one of the other 10 zillion ftp sites... cs.uwp.edu is pathetic ... I havent been able to get connected and I`ve been trying for the past few days... it`s ALWAYS full... Clive. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 16:34:54 -0500 (EST) From: email_address_removed Subject: Re: Import CD's, the first album, etc. I've been told by members of the band to not expect a rerelease of When Dream And Day Unite, since it's on a different label and would involve massive legal hassle. Sorry! Aaron ASILVERM@UMIAMI ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 8:41:14 EST From: greg%email_address_removed (Greg "Big Brother" Lee) Subject: Re: DoE Packaging > I know DoE is a 2 cd set, but I saw it at a record show yesterday and it > was only 1 case, still shrinkwrapped. Are they both in 1 case? Could be...the new Satriani CD is a 2CD set in one CD case...some funky new packaging... Greg! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 17:37:56 -0500 From: email_address_removed Subject: Re:Ytsejam List T-Shirts? >well, at least have the symbol >(the one with the mixed up letters). True. How about scribing YSTE-JAM across the shirt (or maybe on the back) in the same script as "Dream Theatre" is written on the album covers with the M-logo replacing the final letter? or you can separate the two and put the logo somewhere and the script elsewhere. M. Parker ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 18:45:44 -0600 (CST) From: email_address_removed Subject: JPG posted at ftp.uwp.edu Dream Theater fans. I recently scanned in some images off the Dream Theater Images and Words CD. I then used photoshop to enhance the pictures the best I could, geting rid of seems and smudges. Our scanner was stuck at 8 -bit scans so the quality is not the best. I prefer 24 -bit. At least 8-bit will save space. After working with the images, I believe they turned out fairly well. If there is requests to rescan at 24 -bit I might be able to do so in early March (our scanner is now working :) ). I just uploaded the files below to ftp.uwp.edu in /pub/incoming/pictures. How long they will stay there I am not sure. I did not see any other pictures in that directory. FILE NAME COMMENT ____________________________________________ dtcvr.JPG DT I&W CD COVER dthrt.JPG DT I&W BURNING HEART dtmrl.JPG DT I&W COMPLETE MURAL OF BAND dtmrl1.JPG DT I&W FIRST PART OF MURAL dtmrl2.JPG DT I&W SECOND PART OF MURAL dtmrl3.JPG DT I&W THIRD PART OF MURAL <- comming soon Remmeber when FTPing these files switch to the binary mode (type bin at the ftp prompt). I have also included this file as well, if you download it you need to be in the ascii mode (type ascii as the ftp prompt). I found out some interesting things about this ftp site ftp.uwp.edu. There is another picture directory in /pub/music then under /pub/music/d/dream.theatre there is a dt.jpg file. I downloaded it but have not viewed it as of yet. Note the spelling of dream theatre (not theater). There is also a dream.theater (the correct spelling) under /pub/lyrics/d this directory contains lyrics to I&W, an WD&UD (?), and a discography as well. I did not check the acurracy of them. Also the is an FAQs directory in the music directory I believe, I might be nice to post the DT FAQ there. later, -- :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Nathan I Bradley 1320 Stadium Dr. G106 Duluth, MN 55812-2405 email_address_removed 726-7720 ============================================================================ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 17:16:36 PST From: email_address_removed (Zack Gemmill) Subject: Re: Pictures Could someone please repost the ftp address and directory the DT images are in? I erased my mail (like an idiot). Thanks, -- Zach ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 22:16:28 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Burstin Subject: Double CD cases I have discovered a few things about the double CD cases. First of all, as someone had mentioned, the little thinks are very prone to breaking for some reason. The ones that I have now have lasted for a while, though. They are starting to become available in CD stores here. Newbury Comics has them 2 for $5 I think. Some US CDs are also finally starting to come in them. Joe Satriani's Time Machine CDs come to mind for an example. Also on a side note, Jason Hough, the list manager did mention to mail opinions about the T-Shirts to him. Please do this, not because of the space taken (I actually like reading the ideas), but for the fact that it makes it MUCH easier to sort through everything if mailed seperatly, as opposed to looking through a long message for specifics. I have taken several polls on other digests, and it is impossible to get everyone's ideas if you recieve it in digest format. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | I was told there's a miricle for each day that I try | | I was told there's a new love that's born for each one that has died | | I was told there'd be no one to call on when I feel alone and afraid | | I was told if you dream of the next world | | You'll find yourself swimming in a lake of fire | | Dream Theater Metropolis (part 1) Images and Words | | Michael Burstin Brandeis University | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Let's Go Pens Let's Go Pens Lets Go Pens Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ For info on Dream Theater, some Steven Wright jokes, the master list of pickup lines, a revised history of the world, a few blond jokes: finger email_address_removed >mikeb.finger.file ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 22:42:19 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Cloninger Subject: WDADU, DoE, and LatM Hey there all! Just got hold of all of the above (thanks again, Randy H!) and have a few comments to throw out. 1) Although Charlie doesnt seem to record as well as James, he does seem to have that different kind of maturity in his voice that seemed to suit the material at the time. I dont see myself arguing over who was\is better, as it seems that they both fit DT style in a certain unique way. I DO have to admit, i cant help but wonder what "The Ones Who Help to SEt the Sun" and "Light Fuse and Get Away" sound like in concert (what would Charlie have sounded like?....:)) 2)Already having the promo CD, and now both of these live things, i can say that ...i wouldnt say that James "screams" as much as he seeems to...have quite a yell? Id have to say that it seems he choses NOT to attempt to reproduce the "studio sound" of the vocals, but also, seems to prefer the ...looser style that the concert setting allows for. NOPE, dont quite feel as if it ...bothers me. 3)The one...problem..that anyone who is considering buying DoE shoudl be aware of is that..it has ALOT of base to it (had to turn off the loudness on the amp here), but...nothing that cant be dealt with easily. Otherwise, it is VERY good quality (not soundboard?). If you want to catch more than LatM has, THIS seems to be the one to get! and finally...4) Has ANYONEelse noticed the guitar bit near the end of "Forever" that sounds....vaguely familiar to we Beatles fans out here? Tell me its NOT just me...... Sitting down to more...Curry vindaloo? Andrew -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey, you can't have EVERYTHING | "Open the pod bay doors HAL............... ....where would you put it? | ........................................." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 23:20:45 EST From: email_address_removed (Michael A. Daugherty) Subject: Tshirts! I love the Idea of tshirts! But please make them colorful enough. I dont like black and white tshirts. And I dont know about the rest of you, but Im sick of music tshirts being on black T's. I have two drawerfuls of black T's with band stuff on them, I love the bands, but the black is so damn dull and depressing. A red or white would be nice. As for Ideas.... The majesty logo would be cool with the flaming heart, and since dream theater seems to like gothic stuff, a couple of gothic looking columns would be neat. As for sayings, the obvious stuff comes to mind.... "Here before me is my soul, I'm learning to Live." "Pull me under, I'm not afraid" "I am the killing hand" "You draw the bottom line with a dollar sign" "Let light surround you" "Find all you need in your mind, if you take the time." Personally Im partial to the surrounded quote, since its my favorite DT song. +Michael -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 00:08:50 -0500 (EST) From: hartman larry Subject: Some cool info! I read one or two digests ago that Petrucci was gonna be in the March issue of Guitar for the Practicing Musician. So naturaly I ran right out and bought it. It's got some great stuff! It has a big article about him and also a cool poster or him. This issue also contains the FULL trasnscription of Take the Time for guitar AND bass!! Yes I love!! I'm not really a guitar player but I did learn and sequence that cool guitar/keyboard solo at 4:30 right before what I like to call the "funky part" which itself comes before the keyboard solo. Also, this issue had the results to the Readers Choice Awards and here they go. Breakthrough guitarist of the year : John Petrucci Breakthrough band of the year : Dream Theater Album of the Year : Images and Words Songwriters of the Year : Dream Theater Most Underrated guitarist : John Petrucci, ha not any more! Just thought that you would like to know of this. Possibly the best part is when John says that he is currently trascribing the last album for a book!!! YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSS!!!!!! I'm gonna be pitching a tent!!! If this has keyboard parts too, i'm gonna sequence them all and be a god damn Dream Theater cover band!! That would rock!! Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 00:10:10 -0500 (EST) From: hartman larry Subject: Balls and chunck?? I was wondering if anyone knew what "balls and chuck" is? Also, someone one here had once said "balls and crunch". I don't think that it is correct. Please fill us in! Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 18:18:00 GMT From: email_address_removed (CHAN WEINMEISTER) Subject: Re: T-shirts AB> Have it say (maybe under the Majesty logo): AB> "Balls and crunch is where it's at." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DEFINITELY!!! This is a GREAT idea! -Chan 'Once I reached for love, and now I reach for life.' - Dream Theater ////// ////// // : EduTech Online BBS : Internet: edutech.com // // // // : 170+ Conferences : FidoNet: 1:3805/11 //// // // // : 4+ Gigs Downloads : FlyNet: 196:1050/4 // // // // : Internet : FamilyNet: 8:7107/7 ////// ////// ////// : Online Games : SBC-Net: 13:101/3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 23:55:33 MST From: Michael Bahr Subject: Re: JPG posted at ftp.uwp.edu I'd just like to say thanks to you and the other guy who is scanning us pics from the DT albums/video. That's really cool of you, and we fans appreciate the pics... Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 0:05:15 MST From: Michael Bahr Subject: Re:Ytsejam List T-Shirts? > >well, at least have the symbol > > >(the one with the mixed up letters). > > True. How about scribing YSTE-JAM > across the shirt (or maybe on the back) > in the same script as "Dream Theatre" Before you read this, THIS IS NOT A FLAME. It's just that, this being the Dream Theater fan mailing list, it's the right place to mention this. In an interview, John Petrucci actually corrected the interviewer with a "notice the spelling" when he handed them a copy of the pre-release cassette of Images & Words. Apparently there was another band (since there is a slot for them at my record store that is never filled, right next to Dream Theater) called Theatre of Dreams. In any case, I'm not trying to ride ya hard about spelling it "re" instead or "er" except to say that the band would REALLY prefer to be known as "Dream Theater". Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 23:01:11 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Hough Subject: Re:Ytsejam List T-Shirts? On Tue, 25 Jan 1994 email_address_removed wrote: > > True. How about scribing YSTE-JAM > across the shirt (or maybe on the back) > in the same script as "Dream Theatre" > is written on the album covers with > the M-logo replacing the final letter? > > or you can separate the two and put the logo somewhere > and the script elsewhere. > > M. Parker > I like! That sounds cool.... I need more suggestions for which quote(s) to include... -----------------------------) Jason Hough - email_address_removed Nextmail is fine "I'm ashes on the water now, somewhere far away..." -Marillion (----------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 10:16 GMT From: email_address_removed.AC.UK Subject: CD Cases We`ve had those slimline CD cases in the UK for a few years now, nearly all double CD`s are released like that now... I`ve seen a heck of a lot of Metallica bootlegs like that.. The only ones I own that I can think of however are Van Halen`s Live Right Here, Right Now and Satriani`s Time Machine.. Clive. email_address_removed2 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 15:14:08 -0500 (EST) From: ki!kinet3.ki.com!email_address_removed (Steve Chew) Subject: Ytsejam Digest Archives... Well, I'm willing to compile the master Ytsejam digest archive... The Ytsejam server doesn't seem to be acknowledging my subscription requests from my other account though. Randy Haskin: Could you compress and uuencode the digests you have (numbers 6-40) and send them to me at: email_address_removed Michael Burstin: Could you also compress and uuencode the digests you have (numbers 28-70) and send them to me at: email_address_removed Does anyone have those first 6 issues? I have the rest (from 67 - present), though if my subscription at my new account doesn't work, I may need someone to send me any new ones I miss. Please do *not* reply to me here (schew@ki...) because I will no longer have this email account after today (changing jobs). I hope the listserver recognizes my unsubscribe request when I send it. If you have info about the first six issues, or if you want me to send you certain issues, just send me email at email_address_removed Thanks! Steve Chew email_address_removed -- ***Jethro Tull**Yes**Genesis**Marillion**Rush**Dream Theater**Magellan**Pink*** * F R Steve Chew "...And you and I "...It's only the "...Never l e invictus@ reach over the sun giving that makes *ever* o m interzone.com for the river." you what you are." give up." y * d **Pearl Jam**Van der Graaf Generator**Vyzator**King Crimson**Elton John**Enya** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 11:18:29 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew T Pulver Subject: shirts Some one asked about t-shirts out. As well as the flaming heart one, I saw a long sleeve tee with the majesty symbol on the left breast and the names of ALL of the places they've played, super-imposed on a big majesty symbol on the back. Places are named twice or even three times, so it seems like it contains every show they've done. I don't remember if "Dream Theater" was on the sleeve, or not. They had black ones, and white ones. By the way, the lettering was blue. I think I remember the shirts correctly. Any others? See Ya, Matt Pulver ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 11:21:44 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew T Pulver Subject: oh yeah! I forgot to mention the hat. Does any one else have the hat with the gold lettering on it? I love mine> People know me by that hat. Unfortunately, I left it at my friends house one night when I was smashed, and he can't find it. I think he just scammed it off of me though. AAAARRRGGG! Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 94 14:06:08 -0500 From: email_address_removed (Lee T Sprague) Subject: Here's my $0.02 on the T-shirt design for the vote: 1. White --- I've got enough black T's already 2. Have flaming heart on front 3. Have quote on back --- my choice is "You can find all you need in your mind, if you take the time." (in black) 4. Have majesty logo also on the back below qoute (in red or blue) Whatever the design, there should be a graphic on front, quote on back. Also, the sooner the voting is done and a design is finalized, the better. -Lee ------------------------------ End of Digest ************************